REPORT: Three ship commanders fired in two days, raising questions about Navy’s ‘zero-error tolerance’ culture

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The second-in-command of a Navy submarine was fired this week, making him the third senior leader of a ship to be dismissed in two days.

Lt. Cmdr. Jonathan Cebik was removed Monday from his position as executive officer of the USS Jimmy Carter over concerns regarding his personal judgment. Two other senior officers were removed for the same thing Tuesday.

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Such dismissals are by no means unusual, current and former Navy officers told the Washington Examiner. A 2004 Navy inspector general report found that 78 officers were removed for similar reasons between January 1999 and June 2004, an average of slightly more than one per month.

According to Task & Purpose:

The Navy has fired five senior leaders so far in August – and the month isn’t even over.

A Navy spokesman said there is no connection between any of the five officers relieved of command, adding that each relief is looked at separately.

“Senior leaders in the U.S. Navy, especially those in triad leadership positions – commanding officers, executive officers, and command master chiefs – are entrusted with essential responsibilities to their sailors, ships, and commands,” said Cmdr. Jereal Dorsey.

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8 Comments

  1. barbara August 24th, 2019 at 9:48 pm

    Damn if they hold them accountable and damned if they don’t … wtf? The lives and money these men and or women are charged with protecting warrants demand of excellence or good riddance.

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  2. Solomon August 25th, 2019 at 12:51 am

    Seems everyone is butt hurt over this or that… the military is not a business and can’t be ran as such… this is just weakening our armed forces which will cost us in the long run.

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  3. Limey August 25th, 2019 at 12:03 pm

    I could not imagine the responsibility it takes to run a battle ship. The cost of it – the staff – the weapons – the egos- last of all the politics.
    Got to be mind blowing.

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    • gregsnyder August 25th, 2019 at 1:22 pm

      Limey: How about getting your ducks in a row? We haven’t had a battleship in service in 27 years.

      Commanders of naval vessels are trained, vetted, peer-reviewed and thoroughly scrutinized–politically, professionally and even socially–prior to their board selection as Fully-qualified for command.

      However, the usual 2019 SJW exceptions apply: “ring knockers”, legacy hires and favorite sons; women and affirmative action minorities also slip in.

      What you may be seeing is the subpart regions of the bell curve’s regression to the mean. These people could probably function perfectly well in your environment. But, under the intense scrutiny and high-pressure of military command, their flaws and weaknesses –however minor–are magnified and highlighted by the nature of command.

      Rooting them out shows the system still works, it just took longer than usual in these cases, for their inadequacies to become detrimental to the mission.

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  4. Kevin Sanders August 25th, 2019 at 1:18 pm

    It’s all gonna come to a head soon,there’s gonna be war ,famine, great loss of life,and still ignorant people are going to be blaming instead of helping ,i know I’m ready for what’s coming ,ARE YOU?

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    • gregsnyder August 25th, 2019 at 1:28 pm

      Kevin, WTF? You, sir, are not ready for command. Please get sorted out at the upcoming Area 51 Rally! “They can’t stop all of us,” right?

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  5. Dave August 25th, 2019 at 6:10 pm

    The relief of a command could be…. Fail to follow orders I could be from simulated unrehearsed firing of a nuclear weapon… When told to do so… Many officers of today are not willing to push the button

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  6. EWC(SW) Jeffrey Bohemier (Retired) August 26th, 2019 at 7:34 pm

    During my 20 years in the Navy, I served under a really bad command trio. The CMC was a representative of the CO to the crew, enforcing the will of the Commanding Officer with complete disregard for any feedback from the crew. And when confronted with negative feedback, he would accuse the entire Chief’s mess of “making it all up to make him look bad.” The Commanding Officer was described by the Staff Commodore (this was an Amphibious carrier) of taking a GREAT ship and turning it into a GOOD ship. I remember once seeing him strike another officer. He would set draconian rules in place every time the ship went in a liberty port. He even forced “Cinderella Liberty on the entire crew during a deployment, claiming that it was the staff’s policy. And yet, we were the only ship in the ARG that had Cinderella Liberty. Except while in Australia. The CO’s wife was Australian, so we were finally allowed to spend the night out in town because the CO wanted to spend time with his wife. During training exercises he would scream at people if they made even the slightest mistake (isn’t that what training’s for?). He even fired the entire bridge crew during a deployment because a helicopter had gone into the water right next to the ship. The CO wasn’t even on board the ship when the accident had occurred (1 Marine was killed in that incident). He was over on another ship at the time. Then there was the XO. Neither the CO or CMC were ever relieved. Command moral was in the toilet. Then there was the XO. He had set himself up for an Officer’s Leadership Course in Washington, D.C. Only, I was the Command Schools Coordinator and knew that there was no longer any such school. The CO happened to run into a friend of his that used to teach at that school, so he asked his buddy how his Executive Officer was doing in his course? His buddy replied with a “WHAT COURSE?” After an quick investigation of the XO’s stateroom, a copy of some phony orders was found. It had turned out that our XO had taken an Air Force enlisted female with him to Washington for a romantic getaway at tax payer expense. He actually was relieved of duty. We couldn’t get away from that command trio fast enough. There’s nothing worse for morale than a bad command. We didn’t mind a strict command. What we hated was being lied to and being treated like we were children.

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